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Why I will use my .com & .net less & my other domains more.Subject: Internet services and US vs EU jurisdiction From: Sad Clouds <cryintothebluesky@@@gmail.com> To: "netbsd-users@@@netbsd.org" <netbsd-users@@@netbsd.org> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2026 10:10:16 +0000 Hello, I live in the UK and I'm trying to understand how to build modest internet services (web, email, e-commerce, etc.) that are resilient to political instability. As time goes on, it seems the current US administration is becoming steadily unhinged. The increasingly hostile language towards Europe, coupled with the threat of tariffs and trade wars, makes me somewhat reluctant to rely on US companies for internet and financial services. Therefore, I am looking at ways to spread risk across a range of service providers based in both the US and Europe. 1. Domain names It seems prudent to register multiple domains under different TLDs. I am considering registering both a .com (Verisign, US) and a .uk (Nominet, UK) to mitigate the risk should one be suspended for some unusual political reason. Has anyone encountered similar issues before (DMCA, Lanham Act, PATRIOT Act, FISA, etc.), or is this extremely unlikely to happen to legitimate businesses? 2. Domain registrars and name servers Transferring the .com domain to a US registrar and the .uk domain to a UK/EU registrar could also help spread risk. Ensuring the authoritative name servers are located in the corresponding countries also seems important. I like Cloudflare due to their robust infrastructure and competitive domain pricing. Can anyone recommend a similar registrar based in the UK/EU? 3. Data centres For running virtual private servers (VPS), I would like to spread risk across different providers one US-based and another UK/EU-based. The idea is to replicate the same services across multiple data centres managed by completely different companies. Because these are unrelated companies in different regions, there are likely no VLANs available to synchronise data between VPS instances. I could attempt to do this via VPN, but it may not be feasible due to bandwidth or latency limitations. Has anyone done something similar and can share their experience? Thanks. Subject: Re: Internet services and US vs EU jurisdiction From: "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@@@berklix.eu> To: "netbsd-users@@@netbsd.org" <netbsd-users@@@netbsd.org> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2026 15:53:03 +0100 > I like Cloudflare due to their robust infrastructure and competitive > domain pricing. Can anyone recommend a similar registrar based in the > UK/EU? For domains in .com .de .eu .net .org .uk I'm happy with registrar http://joker.com/about/us (Germany http://csl.de/unternehmen/csl ) Best avoid USA firms till they remove chaotic Trump. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.com : "jurisdiction of U.S. law" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.net also Verisign so I will use my .com & .net less & my other domains more. Cheers, -- Julian Stacey http://berklix.eu/jhs/mail/ gmail & yahoo block replies. Contraception & plain text email to reduce global warming. Impeach Trump, mental, paid by Putin, or ?: Ukraine, NATO, Greenland etc. Subject: Re: Internet services and US vs EU jurisdiction From: Sad Clouds <cryintothebluesky@@@gmail.com> To: "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@@@berklix.eu> Cc: "netbsd-users@@@netbsd.org" <netbsd-users@@@netbsd.org> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2026 17:45:18 +0000 On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 15:53:03 +0100 "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@@@berklix.eu> wrote: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.com : "jurisdiction of U.S. law" > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.net also Verisign > so I will use my .com & .net less & my other domains more. So EU or UK registrar with .com domain may not be of much help if US decide to suspend your domain for some vague reasons or if Verisign decide to increase domain prices tenfold due to trade wars with "unfriendly" countries. I hope it will not come to that, but I guess forewarned is forearmed...
Subject: Re: Internet services and US vs EU jurisdiction
From: "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@@@berklix.eu>
To: "netbsd-users@@@netbsd.org" <netbsd-users@@@netbsd.org>
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2026 02:31:18 +0100
Mon, 19 Jan 2026 17:45:18 +0000 Sad Clouds <cryintothebluesky@@@gmail.com> wrote:
Sad Clouds wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 15:53:03 +0100
> "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@@@berklix.eu> wrote:
>
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.com : "jurisdiction of U.S. law"
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.net also Verisign
> > so I will use my .com & .net less & my other domains more.
>
> So EU or UK registrar with .com domain may not be of much help if US
> decide to suspend your domain for some vague reasons or if Verisign
> decide to increase domain prices tenfold due to trade wars with
> "unfriendly" countries. I hope it will not come to that, but I guess
> forewarned is forearmed...
Yes. Registrars are subsidiary, could not stop .com TLD owner Verisign
disrupting selected .com in EU & UK, but if Trump coerced Verisign
(& Trump invents ever more ways to coerce people, eg USA federal reserve
chair http://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c041dp0z95yo )
Disruption might take verisign time to design & process, as
I suppose TLD would not just block whole registrars just 'cos registrar
in EU or UK, 'cos some of their domains might be serving in USA.
I think TLDs do regular eg approx daily polls of all domain registrars,
to collate all eg *.com that each registrar has listed, into a list
of domain name & IP# of registrar.
If a TLD eg verisign does not have software pre-built it would take
a while to add reading of all the .com DNS tables of all global registrars
to trace IP #s of every domains's servers. Then geo-locate IP numbers
to countries, & assemble an omit list of all .coms only served
from within EU & UK, Then the TLD Verisign could only serve from
domain names to registrar numbers for domains not on the drop list.
USA might be less keen to block .coms dual served from USA as well
as EU or UK, so some domains might pre-emptively in their DNS tables
put an IP# that geolocates to USA, or at least not to EU & UK, to
make it harder for Trump's coerced TLD to evaluate putative targets
to attack. ?
A Trump attack on .com & .net in EU & UK would impact eg not just
my .com & .net but also the .com front end of my registrar in EU
So eg I couldnt access my registrar's web login on their .com to
configure domain changes & pay renewal fees for domains. But I'm
sure registrars would if necessary email domain owners a new URL
not under a .com or .net that Trump could not disrupt [** by a .com
& .net block.]
Domains in EU & UK under other TLDs eg .eu .de .uk .[org?] would
continue OK [**].
** Except another danger is if Trump's USA interfered with:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Assigned_Numbers_Authority
"ICANN, a nonprofit private American corporation"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNS_root_zone
"Distribution services are provided by Verisign"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_name_server
10 in USA, 3 Outside
Russia, China & others have long wanted less USA control of the
net's top structure; No sympathy for dictators, but USA's Trump
fomenting global chaos, make one ponder what sudden disruption &
emergency counter measures might escalate to break the Internet.
Any errors ? Corrections welcome.
Cheers,
--
Julian Stacey http://berklix.org/jhs/mail/ gmail & yahoo block replies.
Impeach Trump, mental, or paid by Putin ? Ukraine, NATO, Greenland etc.
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